{"id":1121,"date":"2013-10-22T02:31:50","date_gmt":"2013-10-21T23:31:50","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/magusainsiyatifi.org\/?post_type=mi_yazi&#038;p=1121"},"modified":"2020-10-02T02:32:50","modified_gmt":"2020-10-01T23:32:50","slug":"magusa-inisiyatifinin-disisleri-bakanlari-ozdil-nami-ve-yannis-kasulidis-ile-yaptigi-gorusmelerin-konusma-notlari","status":"publish","type":"mi_yazi","link":"https:\/\/magusainsiyatifi.org\/en\/mi_yazi\/magusa-inisiyatifinin-disisleri-bakanlari-ozdil-nami-ve-yannis-kasulidis-ile-yaptigi-gorusmelerin-konusma-notlari\/","title":{"rendered":"Ma\u011fusa \u0130nisiyatifi\u2019nin D\u0131\u015fi\u015fleri Bakanlar\u0131 \u00d6zdil Nami ve Yannis Kasulidis ile yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmelerin konu\u015fma notlar\u0131"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Ma\u011fusa \u0130nisiyatifi\u2019nin D\u0131\u015fi\u015fleri Bakanlar\u0131 \u00d6zdil Nami ve Yannis Kasulidis ile yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmelerin konu\u015fma notlar\u0131&#8230;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u0130ki taraf\u0131n D\u0131\u015fi\u015fleri Bakanlar\u0131 \u00d6zdil Nami ile 22\/10\/13 ve Kasulidis ile 24\/10\/13 tarihlerinde Ma\u011fusa \u0130nisiyatifi olarak g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmeler ger\u00e7ekle\u015ftirdik.<\/p>\n<p>\u00d6zdil Nami ile Okan Da\u011fl\u0131, Mertkan Hamit, Mustafa \u00d6ng\u00fcn, Ersan Da\u011fl\u0131 ve Cemal Mert bulu\u015furken, Kasulidis\u2019i Okan Da\u011fl\u0131, Serdar Atai, Mertkan Hamit ve Mustafa \u00d6ng\u00fcn ile ziyaret ettik. \u0130ki toplant\u0131 da D\u0131\u015fi\u015fleri bakanl\u0131kl\u0131klar\u0131nda oldu. Bas\u0131na kapal\u0131 olan toplant\u0131larda konu\u015fma notlar\u0131m\u0131z a\u015fa\u011f\u0131dad\u0131r.<\/p>\n<p><strong>G\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fme \u00d6zetleri <\/strong><\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>\u00d6zdil Nami<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<ul>\n<li>Temel olarak Mara\u015f konusunun hala daha b\u00fct\u00fcnl\u00fckl\u00fc \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm\u00fcn par\u00e7as\u0131 olarak g\u00f6r\u00fclmesi gerekti\u011fini s\u00f6yledi.<\/li>\n<li>\u00d6zellikle TC\u2019deki se\u00e7im s\u00fcrecinin ba\u015flamas\u0131ndan \u00f6nce K\u0131br\u0131s\u2019ta bir \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm\u00fcn m\u00fcmk\u00fcn olabilecek bi\u00e7imde ger\u00e7ekle\u015fmesi talebinden \u00f6t\u00fcr\u00fc Mart ay\u0131nda \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm\u00fc telafuz etti\u011fini a\u00e7\u0131klad\u0131. (TC\u2019de Mart itibariyle Yerel, Cumhurba\u015fkanl\u0131\u011f\u0131 ve Genel se\u00e7im olmak \u00fczere \u00fc\u00e7 se\u00e7imin start\u0131 var bu s\u00fcre\u00e7ten \u00f6nce T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin K\u0131br\u0131s konusunda bir\u015feyler yapaca\u011f\u0131 beklentisi var.)<\/li>\n<li>Mart ay\u0131na kadar b\u00fct\u00fcnl\u00fckl\u00fc \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcme y\u00f6nelik olan istence odaklan\u0131lmas\u0131 gerekti\u011fini, s\u00fcrecin ba\u015far\u0131s\u0131zl\u0131\u011fa ya da herhangi bir tren kazas\u0131 olmas\u0131 durumunda ise bir tak\u0131m yak\u0131nla\u015fma sa\u011flayacak \u00f6nerileri d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnebileceklerini belirtti.<\/li>\n<li>Mavroyannis ile bir\u00e7ok konuda g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015ft\u00fcklerini, Hristofiyasla anla\u015f\u0131lan bir\u00e7ok konu oldu\u011funu, bunlar\u0131 \u00e7\u00f6pe atmadan devam edilmesi gerekti\u011fini, bir\u00e7ok konuda hem fikir olsalar dahi, i\u015flerin kimi zaman Anastasidis\u2019de t\u0131kand\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 belirtti.<\/li>\n<li>Kendi a\u00e7\u0131s\u0131ndan hedefinin adada \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm oldu\u011funu ama G\u00fcneyin tutumunun yeteri kadar yap\u0131c\u0131 olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131, bu y\u00fczden de ortak bir bildiride anla\u015fma ya\u015famakta zorluk \u00e7ektiklerini s\u00f6yledi.<\/li>\n<li>Rum taraf\u0131n\u0131n bir\u00e7ok konuda \u201crecognition by implication\u201d konusunda son derece hassas oldu\u011funu ve bu y\u00fczden bir\u00e7ok konuda ilerleme kaydedilmesinde olduk\u00e7a sanc\u0131 \u00e7ekildi\u011fini s\u00f6yledi.<\/li>\n<li>Kapsaml\u0131 \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm i\u00e7in f\u0131rsat oldu\u011funu, \u015fartlar\u0131n olgunla\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6yledi.<\/li>\n<li>Mara\u015f\u2019\u0131n a\u00e7\u0131lmas\u0131 durumunda K\u0131br\u0131s Cumhuriyeti hukukunun ge\u00e7erli olmas\u0131n\u0131n K\u0131br\u0131sl\u0131 m\u00fchendislere dahi i\u015f olana\u011f\u0131 sa\u011flayamayaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc meslek gruplar\u0131n\u0131n tan\u0131nmas\u0131nda dahi sorunlar olaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 bu y\u00fczden konunun \u00e7ok zor oldu\u011funu, bununla birlikte \u015fartlar bu derece olgunken enerjiyi Ma\u011fusa\/Mara\u015f form\u00fcl\u00fc yerine kapsaml\u0131 \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcme harcaman\u0131n teknik olarak daha kolay oldu\u011funu belirtti.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ol>\n<li>Yannis Kasulidis<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<ul>\n<li>Mara\u015f konusunun, olas\u0131 bir referandumda evet \u00e7\u0131kmas\u0131 i\u00e7in, \u00f6zellikle K\u0131br\u0131s Rum taraf\u0131nda, ortada olmas\u0131 gerekti\u011fini ve bir an \u00f6nce ad\u0131m at\u0131lmas\u0131 gerekti\u011fini s\u00f6yledi.<\/li>\n<li>Mara\u015f\u2019\u0131n a\u00e7\u0131lmas\u0131n\u0131 ve K\u0131br\u0131sl\u0131 T\u00fcrklerin d\u00fcnyayla direk ticaretini gerekirse toplu bir bi\u00e7imde ele al\u0131p izolasyonlar\u0131n ortadan kallkmas\u0131n\u0131, T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin AB M\u00fczakere ba\u015fl\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131n a\u00e7\u0131lmas\u0131n\u0131n da sa\u011flanabilece\u011fini s\u00f6yledi. Ba\u015fka bir deyi\u015fle Mara\u015f \u00fczerinden K\u0131br\u0131s Rum Taraf\u0131, K\u0131br\u0131s T\u00fcrk Taraf\u0131 ve T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin dahil oldu\u011fu bu s\u00fcre\u00e7te WIN \u2013 WIN &#8211; WIN durumunun yarat\u0131labilece\u011fini s\u00f6yledi.<\/li>\n<li>Bu a\u00e7\u0131l\u0131mlarla tatmin olup \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm istememek i\u00e7in ne Mara\u015f ne de K\u0131br\u0131sl\u0131 T\u00fcrkler i\u00e7in do\u011frudan ticaret yeterlidir. Tam tersine bunlar\u0131 sorunun \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fclmesi i\u00e7in harcanacak \u00e7abalar\u0131 kolayla\u015ft\u0131racak bir fakt\u00f6r olarak g\u00f6rmektedir. Ayn\u0131 zamanda, g\u00fcven art\u0131r\u0131c\u0131 \u00f6nlemleri m\u00fczakerelerden farkl\u0131 bir rayda ilerlemesini ve yeterince olgunla\u015ft\u0131klar\u0131 zaman liderlerin son karar\u0131 verilebilmesi i\u00e7in m\u00fczakere masas\u0131na kat\u0131lmas\u0131n\u0131 talep ediyor.<\/li>\n<li>K\u0131br\u0131sl\u0131 T\u00fcrk m\u00fchendislerin, K\u0131br\u0131sl\u0131 T\u00fcrk m\u00fcteahhitlerin, K\u0131br\u0131sl\u0131 T\u00fcrk i\u015f\u00e7ilerin, K\u0131br\u0131sl\u0131 Rumlarla birlikte Mara\u015f\u2019\u0131n yeniden in\u015fas\u0131nda rol almalar\u0131n\u0131 garanti etmeye haz\u0131r olduklar\u0131n\u0131 ve bunun her iki toplum i\u00e7in ola\u011fan\u00fcst\u00fc bir ekonomik hareketlilik getirece\u011fini ifade etti.<\/li>\n<li>Mara\u015f\u2019\u0131n a\u00e7\u0131lmas\u0131 ile ilgili ekonomik kaynak yarat\u0131lmas\u0131n\u0131n sadece Mara\u015f\u2019a de\u011fil Ma\u011fusa Suri\u00e7i ve liman\u0131n\u0131 da kapsayacak bir bi\u00e7imde yap\u0131lmas\u0131n\u0131n daha sa\u011fl\u0131kl\u0131 oldu\u011funu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fc belirtti.<\/li>\n<li>T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin K\u0131br\u0131s Cumhuriyetini \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcme y\u00f6nelik niyeti konusunda test etti\u011fini ve umut ettikleri gibi bu testi ge\u00e7tiklerine inand\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 s\u00f6yledi.<\/li>\n<li>Benzeri bir bi\u00e7imde TC\u2019nin Mara\u015f konusunda a\u00e7\u0131l\u0131mlara haz\u0131r oldu\u011funu, ama K\u0131br\u0131s T\u00fcrk taraf\u0131n\u0131n ayak s\u00fcr\u00fcd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fc d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fc s\u00f6yledi. Bunu F\u00fcle ile yap\u0131lan temaslar\u0131n ard\u0131ndan do\u011frulad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 da belirtti.<\/li>\n<li>Mara\u015f ile ilgili olarak Galanos ve Oktay Kayalp\u2019\u0131n da cesaretlendirilmeleri gerekti\u011fini d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fc belirtti.<\/li>\n<li>Kapsaml\u0131 \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm i\u00e7in k\u0131sa d\u00f6nemde \u00f6zellikle Ertu\u011f ve Ero\u011flu nedeniyle, bir \u015fey ba\u015far\u0131lamayaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131, fakat Mara\u015f konusu i\u00e7in zaman\u0131n geldi\u011fini, Mara\u015f konusunun umutlar\u0131 art\u0131rarak, \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcme y\u00f6nelik inanc\u0131 ve politik zemini yarataca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 belirtti.<\/li>\n<li>Amerika\u2019n\u0131n s\u00fcre\u00e7te \u00e7ok niyetli oldu\u011funu fakat Downer\u2019in s\u00fcreci baltalamaya y\u00f6nelik giri\u015fimleri oldu\u011funu a\u00e7\u0131k bir bi\u00e7imde belirtti. \u00d6zellikle taraflar aras\u0131nda kimseyi tatmin etmeyecek yorumlar yaparak s\u00fcrecin kapsaml\u0131 \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm m\u00fczakereleri d\u0131\u015f\u0131na \u00e7\u0131kmas\u0131n\u0131 engellemeye \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 iddia etti.<\/li>\n<li>T\u00fcrkiye\u2019nin \u00c7\u00f6z\u00fcm ve Mara\u015f\/Ma\u011fusa konusunda kapal\u0131 olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131, konu\u015fmaya ve tart\u0131\u015fmaya a\u00e7\u0131k oldu\u011funu, B\u00fct\u00fcnl\u00fckl\u00fc \u00c7\u00f6z\u00fcm konusundan ziyade di\u011fer konular\u0131n konu\u015fulmas\u0131nda daha \u00e7ok K\u0131br\u0131s T\u00fcrk taraf\u0131n\u0131n kat\u0131 oldu\u011fu ifade etti.<\/li>\n<li>T\u00fcm meslek gruplar\u0131n\u0131n Mara\u015f\u2019\u0131n a\u00e7\u0131lmas\u0131 durumunda aktif olarak s\u00fcrece dahil olabilmesi i\u00e7in gerekenin yap\u0131laca\u011f\u0131n\u0131, hatta b\u00f6yle bir durumda K\u0131br\u0131sl\u0131 T\u00fcrk sermaye, m\u00fchendis ve i\u015f\u00e7ilerinin istihdam ve i\u015f alanlar\u0131nda pozitif haklara sahip olarak Mara\u015f\u2019\u0131n yeniden yap\u0131lanma s\u00fcrecinde maddi ve teknik olarak dahil olmas\u0131n\u0131n sa\u011flanmas\u0131 gerekti\u011fini s\u00f6yledi.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>","protected":false},"featured_media":0,"template":"","categories":[77],"tags":[65],"class_list":{"0":"post-1121","1":"mi_yazi","2":"type-mi_yazi","3":"status-publish","5":"category-toplanti-notlari","6":"tag-gorusme","7":"czr-hentry"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/magusainsiyatifi.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/mi_yazi\/1121","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/magusainsiyatifi.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/mi_yazi"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/magusainsiyatifi.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/mi_yazi"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/magusainsiyatifi.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1121"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/magusainsiyatifi.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1121"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/magusainsiyatifi.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1121"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}